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	<title>Comments on: The Shelf layout plan &#8211; not for me</title>
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	<description>Stories about building my model railroad and other things found along the tracks</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swearingen</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-17084</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Swearingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use 3rDPlanIt for my 3D views and track planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use 3rDPlanIt for my 3D views and track planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-17075</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering what software you used to create the 3D view of you layout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering what software you used to create the 3D view of you layout?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stocks</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-15488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
 great idea of planning a mock-up before building. I&#039;m also thinking about a shelf layout but now I&#039;ll mock it up and see if it&#039;s someting I can live with and operate.

 Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
 great idea of planning a mock-up before building. I&#8217;m also thinking about a shelf layout but now I&#8217;ll mock it up and see if it&#8217;s someting I can live with and operate.</p>
<p> Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-14706</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan- thanks for putting the photos and commentary about the shelf layout you decided against. i am going the other way. i had originally planned to do a layout in HO, using a 4x8 as a starting point. once i built the basic benchwork, i realized the error of my ways...too big to keep my unfinished basement even remotely usable for anything other than trains. your shelf model has given me some new ideas for the N shelf layout i am planning. any other resources you might recommend? thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan- thanks for putting the photos and commentary about the shelf layout you decided against. i am going the other way. i had originally planned to do a layout in HO, using a 4&#215;8 as a starting point. once i built the basic benchwork, i realized the error of my ways&#8230;too big to keep my unfinished basement even remotely usable for anything other than trains. your shelf model has given me some new ideas for the N shelf layout i am planning. any other resources you might recommend? thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: j hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-14389</link>
		<dc:creator>j hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had two shelf layouts I was rather happy with, enjoyed the scenery view around as it blended with a room full of shelves and photographed well, taken down due to moves and the only difficulty my return loops, concealed but some flex trak problems w guage in spite of trying for the best, I still prefer the close reach of the shelves w at least a 36 ft mainline as before,wanting a return loop again I intend to absolutly try for the max radius and best trackwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had two shelf layouts I was rather happy with, enjoyed the scenery view around as it blended with a room full of shelves and photographed well, taken down due to moves and the only difficulty my return loops, concealed but some flex trak problems w guage in spite of trying for the best, I still prefer the close reach of the shelves w at least a 36 ft mainline as before,wanting a return loop again I intend to absolutly try for the max radius and best trackwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swearingen</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-2897</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Swearingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rainman,

I started with the idea &quot;I&#039;m going to make a shelf-style layout&quot; but as you correctly point out, I clearly did not end up there.

The planning model was helpful for me because it showed me, without committing any lumber, that I was not going to be happy with a shelf style plan.

For others that same planning model could confirm that they would LOVE that plan. My overall point is that a planning model is a good idea before you start. 

Thanks for writing,
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rainman,</p>
<p>I started with the idea &#8220;I&#8217;m going to make a shelf-style layout&#8221; but as you correctly point out, I clearly did not end up there.</p>
<p>The planning model was helpful for me because it showed me, without committing any lumber, that I was not going to be happy with a shelf style plan.</p>
<p>For others that same planning model could confirm that they would LOVE that plan. My overall point is that a planning model is a good idea before you start. </p>
<p>Thanks for writing,<br />
Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Rainman</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-2893</link>
		<dc:creator>Rainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you call a layout that takes up the whole room as a shelf layout? Shelf layouts I think are something on a book shelf type of setup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you call a layout that takes up the whole room as a shelf layout? Shelf layouts I think are something on a book shelf type of setup.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swearingen</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Swearingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ken,

I do agree that my plan totally ruins the room for any use other than trains. But then, it used to be my office so it&#039;s my loss. 

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ken,</p>
<p>I do agree that my plan totally ruins the room for any use other than trains. But then, it used to be my office so it&#8217;s my loss. </p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Ken King</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your great site thru &#039;Google&#039; search. I live just outside Edmonton Alberta Canada (remember the hockey playoffs last year when the Oilers beat the San Jose Sharks??...;-)). Also &#039;model&#039; 12&quot; to the foot scale as an engineer with CN out of Edmonton...49, married with 3 daughters... 

For my HO layout (12-4 by 16 plus, with approx 8 by 9 extension...I am looking at a shelf format, with a twice-around mainline for display. Primary concept (givens and druthers) will be urban and semi-urban switching in and around Kelowna BC. Both CN and CP service until the early 90&#039;s. Nice swithing yard, industrial area with carferry, yada yada...

 Love the idea of a scale mockup, don&#039;t think scenery will be a huge concern with me, I appreciate the &#039;looks like a shelf&#039; comment, but room needs to&#039;multitask&#039;, for guest sleeping and TV lounge...extra 8 by 9 for workshop, and staging.

 Small mountains with trees and vegetation around Kelowna. Will be modelling quasi-modern CN/CP and my own Kootenay Western shortline, with 6- axle thru frt power (F45, SD38-2, etc) and lots of switchers (SW1500, SW1200, etc.)

Send me a note, be good to hear from you!

Ken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your great site thru &#8216;Google&#8217; search. I live just outside Edmonton Alberta Canada (remember the hockey playoffs last year when the Oilers beat the San Jose Sharks??&#8230;;-)). Also &#8216;model&#8217; 12&#8243; to the foot scale as an engineer with CN out of Edmonton&#8230;49, married with 3 daughters&#8230; </p>
<p>For my HO layout (12-4 by 16 plus, with approx 8 by 9 extension&#8230;I am looking at a shelf format, with a twice-around mainline for display. Primary concept (givens and druthers) will be urban and semi-urban switching in and around Kelowna BC. Both CN and CP service until the early 90&#8242;s. Nice swithing yard, industrial area with carferry, yada yada&#8230;</p>
<p> Love the idea of a scale mockup, don&#8217;t think scenery will be a huge concern with me, I appreciate the &#8216;looks like a shelf&#8217; comment, but room needs to&#8217;multitask&#8217;, for guest sleeping and TV lounge&#8230;extra 8 by 9 for workshop, and staging.</p>
<p> Small mountains with trees and vegetation around Kelowna. Will be modelling quasi-modern CN/CP and my own Kootenay Western shortline, with 6- axle thru frt power (F45, SD38-2, etc) and lots of switchers (SW1500, SW1200, etc.)</p>
<p>Send me a note, be good to hear from you!</p>
<p>Ken.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Swearingen</title>
		<link>http://www.polyweb.com/dans_rr/blog/index.php/archives/19/comment-page-1#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Swearingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my main point is that building small mock-ups of your layout ideas before you commit real lumber is important. In many ways I did not have an up front &quot;givens and druthers&quot; list (good blog post idea!) so I was kind of feeling around for what kind of layout I wanted. I agree that my choices were unconventional: many people would have preferred the shelf plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my main point is that building small mock-ups of your layout ideas before you commit real lumber is important. In many ways I did not have an up front &#8220;givens and druthers&#8221; list (good blog post idea!) so I was kind of feeling around for what kind of layout I wanted. I agree that my choices were unconventional: many people would have preferred the shelf plan.</p>
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